Swami Vivekananda
The Complete Works: Volume VIIPage 1 of 1

Conversations and Dialogues: Shri Sharat Chandra Chakravarty

5. Try to manifest this Ātman, and you will see your intellect penetrating into all subjects.

[Place: The rented Math premises at Belur. Year: 1898, November]

The Math is still situated in Nilāmbar Bābu’s garden-house at Belur. It is the month of November. Swamiji is now much engaged in the study and discussion of Sanskrit scriptures. The couplets beginning with “Āchandālā-pratihatarayah”, he composed about this time. Today Swamiji composed the hymn, “Om hrim ritam” etc., and handing it over to the disciple said, “See if there is any metrical defect in these stanzas.” The disciple made a copy of the poem for this purpose.

On this day it seemed as if the goddess of learning had manifested herself on his tongue. With the disciple he fluently talked about two hours at a stretch in exceedingly melodious Sanskrit. After the disciple had copied the hymn, Swamiji said, “You see, as I write immersed in thought, grammatical slips sometimes occur; therefore I ask you all to look over them.”

Disciple: Sir, these are not slips, but the licence of genius.

Swamiji: You may say so; but why will other people assent to that? The other day I wrote an essay on “What is Hinduism”, and some amongst you even are complaining that it was written in very stiff Bengali. I think, language and thought also, like all other things, become lifeless and monotonous in course of time. Such a state seems to have happened now in this country. On the advent of Shri Ramakrishna, however, a new current has set in, in thought and language. Everything has now to be recast in new moulds. Everything has to be propagated with the stamp of new genius. Look, for example, how the old modes of Sannyāsins are breaking, yielding place to a new mould by degrees. Society is protesting much against it—but is it of any avail? Neither are we frightened by that. The Sannyāsins of the present day have to go to distant countries for preaching, and if they go in an ash-besmeared, half-nude body like the Sādhus (holy men) of old, in the first place they won’t be taken on board the ships, and even if they anyhow reach foreign countries in that dress, they will have to stay in jail. Everything requires to be changed a little according to place, time, and civilisation. Henceforth I am thinking of writing essays in Bengali. Littérateurs will perhaps rail at them. Never mind—I shall try to cast the Bengali language in a new mould. Nowadays, Bengali writers use too many verbs in their writings; this takes away the force of the language. If one can express the ideas of verbs with adjectives, it adds to the force of the language; henceforth try to write in that style. Try to write articles in that style in the Udbodhan. Do you know the meaning of the use of verbs in language? It gives a pause to the thought; hence the use of too many verbs in language is a sign of weakness, like quick breathing, and indicates that there is not much vitality in the language; that is why one cannot lecture well in the Bengali language. He who has control over his language, does not make frequent breaks in his thoughts. As your physique has been rendered languid by living on a dietary of boiled rice and dāl, similar is the case with your language. In food, in modes of life, in thought, and in language, energy has to be infused. With the infusion of vitality all round and the circulation of blood in all arteries and veins, one should feel the throbbing of new life in everything—then only will the people of this land be able to survive the present terrible struggle for existence; otherwise the country and the race will vanish in the enveloping shadows of death at no distant date.

Disciple: Sir, the constitution of the people of this country has been moulded in a peculiar way through long ages. Is it possible to change that within a short time?

Swamiji: If you have known the old ways to be wrong, then why don’t you, as I say, learn to live in a better way? By your example ten other people will follow suit, and by theirs another fifty people will learn. By this process in course of time the new idea will awaken in the hearts of the whole race. But even if after understanding, you do not act accordingly, I shall know that you are wise in words only—but practically you are fools.

Disciple: Your words, sir, infuse great courage, enthusiasm, energy and strength into the heart.

Swamiji: By degrees the heart has to be strengthened. If one man is made, it equals the result of a hundred thousand lectures. Making the mind and the lips at one, the ideas have to be practised in life. This is what Shri Ramakrishna meant by “allowing no theft in the chamber of thought”. You have to be practical in all spheres of work. The whole country has been ruined by masses of theories. He who is the true son of Shri Ramakrishna will manifest the practical side of religious ideas and will set to work with one-pointed devotion without paying heed to the prattling of men or of society. Haven’t you heard of the couplet of Tulasidās: “The elephant walks the market-place and a thousand curs bark at him; so the Sādhus have no ill-feeling if worldly people slander them.” You have to walk in this way. No count should be taken of the words of people. If one has to pay heed to their praise or blame, no great work can be accomplished in this life. “नायमात्मा बलहीनेन लभ्य:—The Ātman is not to be gained by the weak.” If there is no strength in body and mind, the Ātman cannot be realised. First you have to build the body by good nutritious food—then only will the mind be strong. The mind is but the subtle part of the body. You must retain great strength in your mind and words. “I am low, I am low”—repeating these ideas in the mind, man belittles and degrades himself. Therefore, the Shāstra (Ashtāvakra Samhitā, I. 11) says:

“मुक्ताभिमानी मुक्तो हि बद्धो बद्धाभिमान्यपि ।
किम्वदन्तीह सत्येयं या मति: सा गतिर्भवेत् ॥

—He who thinks himself free, free he becomes; he who thinks himself bound, bound he remains—this popular saying is true: ‘As one thinks, so one becomes’.” He alone who is always awake to the idea of freedom, becomes free; he who thinks he is bound, endures life after life in the state of bondage. It is a fact. This truth holds good both in spiritual and temporal matters. Those who are always down-hearted and dispirited in this life can do no work; from life to life they come and go wailing and moaning. “The earth is enjoyed by heroes”—this is the unfailing truth. Be a hero. Always say, “I have no fear.” Tell this to everybody—“Have no fear.” Fear is death, fear is sin, fear is hell, fear is unrighteousness, fear is wrong life. All the negative thoughts and ideas that are in this world have proceeded from this evil spirit of fear. This fear alone has kept the sun, air and death in their respective places and functions, allowing none to escape from their bounds. Therefore the Shruti says (Katha Upanishad, II. iii. 3) says:

“भयादस्याग्निस्तपति भयात्तपति सूर्य: ।
भयादिन्द्रश्च वायुश्च मृत्युर्धावति पञ्चम: ॥

—Through fear of this, fire burns, the sun heats; through fear Indra and Vāyu are carrying on their functions, and Death stalks upon this earth.” When the gods Indra, Chandra, Vāyu, Varuna will attain to fearlessness, then will they be one with Brahman, and all this phantasm of the world will vanish. Therefore I say, “Be fearless, be fearless.”

Swamiji, in saying these words, appeared in the eyes of the disciple like the very embodiment of “fearlessness”, and he thought, “How in his presence even the fear of death leaves one and vanishes into nothingness!”

Swamiji continued: In this embodied existence, you will be tossed again and again on the waves of happiness and misery, prosperity and adversity—but know them all to be of momentary duration. Never care for them. “I am the birthless, the deathless Ātman, whose nature is Intelligence”—implanting this idea firmly in your heart, you should pass the days of your life. “I have no birth, no death, I am the Ātman untouched by anything”—lose yourself completely in this idea. If you can once become one with this idea, then in the hour of sorrow and tribulation, it will rise of itself in your mind, and you will not have to strive with difficulty to bring it up. The other day, I was a guest of Bābu Priyanāth Mukherjee at Baidyanāth. There I had such a spell of asthma that I felt like dying. But from within, with every breath arose the deep-toned sound, “I am He, I am He.” Resting on the pillow, I was waiting for the vital breath to depart, and observing all the time that from within was being heard the sound of “I am He, I am He!” I could hear all along “एकमेवाद्वयं ब्रह्म नेह नानास्ति किञ्चन—The Brahman, the One without a second, alone exists, nothing manifold exists in the world.”

The disciple, struck with amazement said, “Sir, talking with you and listening to your realisations, I feel no necessity for the study of scriptures.”

Swamiji: No! Scriptures have to be studied also. For the attainment of Jnāna, study of scriptures is essential. I shall soon open classes in the Math for them. The Vedas, Upanishads, the Gitā, and Bhāgavata should be studied in the classes, and I shall teach the Pānini’s Ashtādhyāyi.

Disciple: Have you studied the Ashtādhyāyi of Panini?

Swamiji: When I was in Jaipur, I met a great grammarian and felt a desire to study Sanskrit grammar with him. Although he was a great scholar in that branch, he had not much aptitude for teaching. He explained to me the commentary on the first aphorism for three days continuously, still I could not grasp a bit of it. On the fourth day the teacher got annoyed and said, “Swamiji, I could not make you understand the meaning of the first aphorism even in three days; I fear, you will not be much benefited by my teaching.” Hearing these words, a great self-reproach came over me. Putting food and sleep aside, I set myself to study the commentary on the first aphorism independently. Within three hours the sense of the commentary stood explained before me as clearly as anything; then going to my teacher I gave him the sense of the whole commentary. My teacher, hearing me, said, “How could you gather the sense so excellently within three hours, which I failed to explain to you in three days?” After that, every day I began to read chapter after chapter, with the greatest ease. Through concentration of mind everything can be accomplished—even mountains can be crushed to atoms.

Disciple: Sir, everything is wonderful about you.

Swamiji: There is nothing wonderful in this universe. Ignorance constitutes the only darkness, which covers all things and makes them look mysterious. When everything is lighted by Knowledge, the sense of mystery vanishes from the face of things. Even such an inscrutable thing as Māyā, which brings the most impossible things to pass, disappears. Know Him, think of Him, by knowing whom everything else is known. And when that Ātman is realised, the purport of all scriptures will be perceived as clearly as a fruit on the palm of one’s hand. The Rishis of old attained realisation, and must we fail? We are also men. What has happened once in the life of one individual must, through proper endeavour, be realised in the life of others. History repeats itself. This Ātman is the same in all, there is only a difference of manifestation in different individuals. Try to manifest this Ātman, and you will see your intellect penetrating into all subjects. The intellect of one who has not realised the Ātman is one-sided, whereas the genius of the knower of Ātman is all-embracing. With the manifestation of the Ātman you will find that science, philosophy, and everything will be easily mastered. Proclaim the glory of the Ātman with the roar of a lion, and impart fearlessness unto all beings by saying, “Arise, awake, and stop not till the goal is reached.”

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Inspired Talks
  1. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, June 19
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  10. Inspired Talks: Monday, July 1
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  12. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, July 3
  13. Inspired Talks: Friday, July 5
  14. Inspired Talks: Saturday, July 6
  15. Inspired Talks: Sunday, July 7
  16. Inspired Talks: Monday, July 8
  17. Inspired Talks: Tuesday, July 9
  18. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, July 10
  19. Inspired Talks: Thursday, July 11
  20. Inspired Talks: Friday, July 12
  21. Inspired Talks: Saturday, July 13
  22. Inspired Talks: Sunday, July 14
  23. Inspired Talks: Monday, July 15
  24. Inspired Talks: Tuesday, July 16
  25. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, July 17
  26. Inspired Talks: Thursday, July 18
  27. Inspired Talks: Friday, July 19
  28. Inspired Talks: Saturday, July 20
  29. Inspired Talks: Sunday, July 21
  30. Inspired Talks: Tuesday, July 23
  31. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, July 24
  32. Inspired Talks: Thursday, July 25
  33. Inspired Talks: Friday, July 26
  34. Inspired Talks: Saturday, July 27
  35. Inspired Talks: Sunday, July 28
  36. Inspired Talks: Monday, July 29
  37. Inspired Talks: Tuesday, July 30
  38. Inspired Talks: Wednesday, July 31
  39. Inspired Talks: Thursday, August 1
  40. Inspired Talks: Friday, August 2
  41. Inspired Talks: Saturday, August 3
  42. Inspired Talks: Sunday, August 4
  43. Inspired Talks: Monday, August 5
  44. Inspired Talks: Tuesday, August 6
Conversations and Dialogues: Shri Sharat Chandra Chakravarty
  1. 1. Each Hindu, I say, is a brother to every other
  2. 2. Always talk and hear and reason about this Ātman.
  3. 3. He who is truly and sincerely reliant on the Lord goes beyond all idea of the duality of good and bad.
  4. 4. Since visiting Amarnāth, I feel as if Shiva is sitting on my head for twenty-four hours and would not come down.
  5. 5. Try to manifest this Ātman, and you will see your intellect penetrating into all subjects.
  6. 6. You have only got to know that you are Eternal Brahman.
  7. 7. You have locked up your intelligence, thrown away your inherited wealth to others, and roam about crying piteously for food.
  8. 8. I am of opinion that the conclusion of the ancient Indian philosophers is the last word on the causes of evolution.
  9. 9. “नायमात्मा बलहीनेन लभ्य:—This Ātman cannot be attained by the weak.
  10. 10. Negative thoughts weaken men.
  11. 11. I am ready to undergo a hundred thousand rebirths to train up a single man.
  12. 12. Laziness, meanness, and hypocrisy have covered the whole length and breadth of the country.
  13. 13. Now is wanted—as said in the Gitā by the Lord—intense Karma-Yoga
  14. 14. Nāg Mahāshaya has lost himself in the Divine, his body-consciousness has vanished altogether.
  15. 15. Shri Ramakrishna used to deprecate lukewarmness in spiritual attainments
  16. 16. Shri Ramakrishna was born to vivify all branches of art and culture in this country.
  17. 17. The few days that the body lasts, I will work for you. I shall die in harness.
  18. 18. As far as you can, you must go on doing good work.
  19. 19. Come what may, I shall not forget my duty, whether the world remains or dissolves—these are the words of a great hero.
  20. 20. This Kāli is Brahman in manifestation.
  21. 21. Nothing good in the world becomes fruitless, be it work or thought.
  22. 22. The philosophic portion of the Upanishads has remained unchanged up till now
  23. 23. Always remember that renunciation is the root idea.
  24. 24. God is present in every Jiva; there is no other God besides that.
  25. 25. Real monasticism is not easy to attain. There is no order of life so rigorous as this.
  26. 26. The gift of knowledge is the highest gift in the world.
  27. 27. Shri Ramakrishna was a wonderful gardener.
  28. 28. Without drinking the water of mother Gangā, a sweet, musical voice is not acquired.
  29. 29. Always try to get absorbed in the eternally present Ātman.
Conversations and Dialogues: Shri Priya Nath Sinha
  1. 30. Self-sacrifice, indeed, is the basis of all civilisation.
  2. 31. This idea must be preached to everyone—work, work, endless work—without looking at results,
Conversations and Dialogues: Miscellaneous
  1. 32. Vengeance of History
  2. Religion, Civilisation, And Miracles (The Appeal-Avalanche )
  3. Religion, Civilisation, and Miracles
  4. Religious Harmony
  5. Fallen Women
Translation of Writings
  1. Note
  2. I. Memoirs of European Travel
  3. II. Memoirs of European Travel
  4. III. Memoirs of European Travel-Addenda
Notes of Class Talks and Lectures
  1. On Art
  2. On Music
  3. On Mantra And Mantra-Chaitanya
  4. On Conceptions Of Godhead
  5. On Food
  6. On Sannyasa And Family Life
  7. On Questioning The Competency Of The Guru
  8. Shri Ramakrishna: The Significance Of His Life And Teachings
  9. On Shri Ramakrishna And His Views
  10. Shri Ramakrishna: The Nation's Ideal
Notes of Lectures
  1. Mercenaries In Religion
  2. The Destiny Of Man
  3. Reincarnation
  4. Comparative Theology
  5. Buddhism, The Religion Of The Light Of Asia
  6. The Science Of Yoga
Epistles: Third Series
  1. NOTE
  2. 1. Such courage is impossible in a lying and unchaste woman.
  3. 2. The doctor is a noble soul, and they have got a brotherhood
  4. 3. Of the few places I have recently visited, this is the healthiest.
  5. 4. May the Lord ordain that your son becomes a man, and never a coward!
  6. 5. Whoever takes the name of Ramakrishna, know him to be your Guru
  7. 6. Any shortcoming in adopting remedial measures is to be considered as idleness—it is a fault and a guilt.
  8. 7. How, O man, dost thou want satisfaction in such a world!
  9. 8. You are a real Mahātmā (a great soul) and Mrs. Wright is nonpareil.
  10. 9. All creeds do come from Thee; The Vedas, Bible, and Koran bold Sing Thee in harmony.
  11. 10. He who was guiding me on the snow tops of the Himalayas and the burning plains of India is here to help me and guide me.
  12. 11. Just now I am lecturing about Chicago—and am doing as I think very well
  13. 12. America is the only place where there is a chance of success for everything.
  14. 13. Dr. Momerie came to the Parliament in spite of the Archbishop of Canterbury’s denouncing of the Parliament of Religions.
  15. 14. May your feet never touch the mud and dirt of this terrible world
  16. 15. All religions are sacred to me.
  17. 16. Your love and noble heart can convert the stone into down.
  18. 17. The Lord is great, none can injure His children.
  19. 18. I am a vegetarian …, because I prefer it when I can get it.
  20. 19. It is unnecessary for me to say that I will be very happy to do as you say
  21. 20. The way to God is the opposite to that of the world.
  22. 21. I am bound, my dear friend, to give you every satisfaction of my being a genuine Sannyāsin, but to you alone.
  23. 22. This is a queer place—this world of ours.
  24. 23. Keeping aloof from the community of nations is the only cause for the downfall of India.
  25. 24. May you have exceeding love for one another among yourselves
  26. 25. Be the servant if you will rule. That is the real secret.
  27. 26. It is character that can cleave through adamantine walls of difficulties. Bear this in mind.
  28. 27. If you have the spirit within, you will never fail to attract others.
  29. 28. It is a great work to bring this world into a spirit of sympathy with each other
  30. 29. Teaching has become a part of my life, as necessary to my life as eating or breathing.
  31. 30. The city is hot in summer, exactly like Calcutta.
  32. 31. You must always remember that you are addressing the whole world, not India alone
  33. 32. Obedience is the first duty
  34. 33. The eternal, the infinite, the omnipresent, the omniscient is a principle, not a person.
  35. 34. Our whole country is steeped in Tamas, and nothing but that.
  36. 35. This is the world my brother—this illusion of Māyā—the Lord alone is true.
  37. 36. I only say, awake, awake!
  38. 37. No one of the types we call religious ought to die
  39. 38. It is this yearning that gradually brings on a concentration of the mind on the eternal Brahman.
  40. 39. India is already Ramakrishna’s whether I live a few years more or not.
  41. 40. What we want are brave young men who will work, not tomfools.
  42. 41. Lord bless you for your great self-sacrifice for the poor Indians.
  43. 42. It is absolutely necessary to stand on one’s own feet.
  44. 43. Love stops not for questions of birth. Nor the hungry man for stale food.
  45. 44. Whosoever of you have given me a coat? Whosoever a cigar? Whosoever a bit of fish or flesh?
  46. 45. Miss Noble is doing very well here, and working her way out.
  47. 46. It is a grand sight to see a giant pine struggling against a cyclone. Is it not?
  48. 47. It is the Saviour who should “go his way rejoicing, and not the saved”.
  49. 48. Seeing such souls here and there repays for all the nonsense of this life.
  50. 49. I am eternally thankful to you for all your kindness
  51. 50. I do not mind at all whether people come round to help me or not
  52. 51. It is human nature to ask for more favours (now that they have come) where it gets from.
  53. 52. I just want a bit of peace badly—pray for me.
  54. 53. Eternal faith in Self, in all The sight Divine in great in small