Swami Vivekananda
The Complete Works: Volume VIIIPage 1 of 1

Notes of Class Talks and Lectures

Christianity In India

(A lecture delivered at Detroit on March 11, 1894 and reported in the Detroit Free Press)

"Vive Kananda spoke to a crowded audience at the Detroit Opera House last night. He was given an extremely cordial reception and delivered his most eloquent address here. He spoke for two hours and a half.

Hon. T. W. Palmer, in introducing the distinguished visitor, referred to the old tale of the shield that was copper on one side and silver on the other and the contest which ensued. If we look on both sides of a question there would be less dispute. It is possible for all men to agree. The matter of foreign missions has been dear to the religious heart. Vivekananda, from the Christian standpoint, said Mr. Palmer, was a pagan. It would be pleasant to hear from a gentleman who spoke about the copper side of the shield.

Vivekananda was received with great applause”.…

I do not know much about missionaries in Japan and China, but I am well posted about India. The people of this country look upon India as a vast waste, with many jungles and a few civilised Englishmen. India is half as large as the United States, and there are three hundred million people. Many stories are related, and I have become tired of denying these. The first invaders of India, the Aryans, did not try to exterminate the population of India as the Christians did when they went into a new land, but the endeavour was made to elevate persons of brutish habits. The Spaniards came to Ceylon with Christianity. The Spaniards thought that their God commanded them to kill and murder and to tear down heathen temples. The Buddhists had a tooth a foot long, which belonged to their Prophet, and the Spaniards threw it into the sea, killed a few thousand persons, and converted a few scores. The Portuguese came to Western India. The Hindus have a belief in the Trinity and had a temple dedicated to their sacred belief. The invaders looked at the temple and said it was a creation of the devil; and so they brought their cannon to bear upon the wonderful structure and destroyed a portion of it. But the invaders were driven out of the country by the enraged population. The early missionaries tried to get hold of the land, and in their effort to secure a foothold by force, they killed many people and converted a number. Some of them became Christians to save their lives. Ninety-nine per cent of the Christians converted by the Portuguese sword were compelled to be so, and they said, “We do not believe in Christianity, but we are forced to call ourselves Christians”. But Catholic Christianity soon relapsed.

The East India Company got possession of a part of India with the idea of making hay while the sun shone. They kept the missionaries away. The Hindus were the first to welcome the missionaries, not the Englishmen, who were engaged in trade. I have great admiration for some of the first missionaries of the later period, who were true servants of Jesus and did not vilify the people or spread vile falsehoods about them. They were gentle, kindly men. When Englishmen became masters of India, the missionary enterprise began to become stagnant, a condition which characterises the missionary efforts in India today. Dr. Long, an early missionary, stood by the people. He translated a Hindu drama describing the evils perpetrated in India by indigo-planters, and what was the result? He was placed in jail by the English. Such missionaries were of benefit to the country, but they have passed away. The Suez Canal opened up a number of evils.

Now goes the missionary, a married man, who is hampered because he is married. The missionary knows nothing about the people, he cannot speak the language, so he invariably settles in the little white colony. He is forced to do this because he is married. Were he not married, he could go among the people and sleep on the ground if necessary. So he goes to India to seek company for his wife and children. He stays among the English-speaking people. The great heart of India is today absolutely untouched by missionary effort. Most of the missionaries are incompetent. I have not met a single missionary who understands Sanskrit. How can a man absolutely ignorant of the people and their traditions, get into sympathy with them? I do not mean any offence, but Christians send men as missionaries, who are not persons of ability. It is sad to see money spent to make converts when no real results of a satisfactory nature are reached.

Those who are converted, are the few who make a sort of living by hanging round the missionaries. The converts who are not kept in service in India, cease to be converts. That is about the entire matter in a nutshell. As to the way of converting, it is absolutely absurd. The money the missionaries bring is accepted. The colleges founded by the missionaries are all right, so far as the education is concerned. But with religion it is different. The Hindu is acute; he takes the bait but avoids the hook! It is wonderful how tolerant the people are. A missionary once said, “That is the worst of the whole business. People who are self-complacent can never be converted”.

As regards the lady missionaries, they go into certain houses, get four shillings a month, teach them something of the Bible, and show them how to knit. The girls of India will never be converted. Atheism and scepticism at home is what is pushing the missionary into other lands. When I came into this country I was surprised to meet so many liberal men and women. But after the Parliament of Religions a great Presbyterian paper came out and gave me the benefit of a seething article. This the editor called enthusiasm. The missionaries do not and cannot throw off nationality—they are not broad enough—and so they accomplish nothing in the way of converting, although they may have a nice sociable time among themselves. India requires help from Christ, but not from the antichrist; these men are not Christ like. They do not act like Christ; they are married and come over and settle down comfortably and make a fair livelihood. Christ and his disciples would accomplish much good in India, just as many of the Hindu saints do; but these men are not of that sacred character. The Hindus would welcome the Christ of the Christians gladly, because his life was holy and beautiful; but they cannot and will not receive the narrow utterances of the ignorant, hypocritical or self-deceiving men.

Men are different. If they were not, the mentality of the world would be degraded. If there were not different religions, no religion would survive. The Christian requires his religion; the Hindu needs his own creed. All religions have struggled against one another for years. Those which were founded on a book, still stand. Why could not the Christians convert the Jews? Why could they not make the Persians Christians? Why could they not convert Mohammedans? Why cannot any impression be made upon China and Japan? Buddhism, the first missionary religion, numbers double the number of converts of any other religion, and they did not use the sword. The Mohammedans used the greatest violence. They number the least of the three great missionary religions. The Mohammedans have had their day. Every day you read of Christian nations acquiring land by bloodshed. What missionaries preach against this? Why should the most blood-thirsty nations exalt an alleged religion which is not the religion of Christ? The Jews and the Arabs were the fathers of Christianity, and how they have been persecuted by the Christians! The Christians have been weighed in the balance in India and have been found wanting. I do not mean to be unkind, but I want to show the Christians how they look in others’ eyes. The missionaries who preach the burning pit are regarded with horror. The Mohammedans rolled wave after wave over India waving the sword, and today where are they?

The furthest that all religions can see is the existence of a spiritual entity. So no religion can teach beyond that point. In every religion there is the essential truth and the non-essential casket in which this jewel lies. Believing in the Jewish book or in the Hindu book is non-essential. Circumstances change; the receptacle is different; but the central truth remains. The essentials being the same, the educated people of every community retain the essentials. If you ask a Christian what his essentials are, he should reply, “The teachings of Lord Jesus”. Much of the rest is nonsense. But the nonsensical part is right; it forms the receptacle. The shell of the oyster is not attractive, but the pearl is within it. The Hindu will never attack the life of Jesus; he reverences the Sermon on the Mount. But how many Christians know or have heard of the teachings of the Hindu holy men? They remain in a fool’s paradise. Before a small fraction of the world was converted. Christianity was divided into many creeds. That is the law of nature. Why take a single instrument from the great religious orchestra of the earth? Let the grand symphony go on. Be pure. Give up superstition and see the wonderful harmony of nature. Superstition gets the better of religion. All the religions are good, since the essentials are the same. Each man should have the perfect exercise of his individuality, but these individualities form a perfect whole. This marvellous condition is already in existence. Each creed has something to add to the wonderful structure.

I pity the Hindu who does not see the beauty in Jesus Christ’s character. I pity the Christian who does not reverence the Hindu Christ. The more a man sees of himself, the less he sees of his neighbours. Those that go about converting, who are very busy saving the souls of others, in many instances forget their own souls. I was asked by a lady why the women of India were not more elevated. It is in a great degree owing to the barbarous invaders through different ages; it is partly due to the people of India themselves. But our women are any day better than the ladies of this country who are devotees of novels and balls. Where is the spirituality one would expect in a country which is so boastful of its civilisation? I have not found it. “Here” and “here-after” are words to frighten children. It is all “here”. To live and move in God—even here, even in this body! All self should go out; all superstition should be banished. Such men live in India. Where are such in this country? Your preachers speak against “dreamers”. The people of this country would be better off if there were more “dreamers”. If a man here followed literally the instruction of his Lord, he would be called a fanatic. There is a good deal of difference between dreaming and the brag of the nineteenth century. The bees look for the flowers. Open the lotus! The whole world is full of God and not of sin. Let us help each other. Let us love each other. A beautiful prayer of the Buddhist is: I bow down to all the saints; I bow down to all the prophets; I bow down to all holy men and women all over the world!

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Contents

Lectures and Discourses
  1. Discourses On Jnana-Yoga
  2. Six Lessons On Raja-Yoga
  3. Women Of India
  4. My Life And Mission
  5. Buddha's Message To The World
  6. Discipleship
  7. Is Vedanta The Future Religion?
Writings: Prose and Poems
  1. The Struggle For Expansion
  2. The Birth Of Religion
  3. Four Paths Of Yoga
  4. Cyclic Rest And Change
  5. A Preface To The Imitation Of Christ
  6. An Interesting Correspondence
  7. Thou Blessed Dream
  8. Light
  9. The Living God
  10. To An Early Violet
  11. To My Own Soul
  12. The Dance Of Shiva
  13. Shiva In Ecstasy
  14. To Shri Krishna
  15. A Hymn To Shri Ramakrishna
  16. A Hymn To Shri Ramakrishna
  17. No One To Blame
Notes of Class Talks and Lectures
  1. Notes Of Class Talks
  2. Man The Maker Of His Destiny
  3. God: Personal And Impersonal
  4. The Divine Incarnation Or Avatara
  5. Pranayama
  6. Women Of The East
  7. Congress Of Religious Unity
  8. The Love Of God-I
  9. The Love Of God--II
  10. India
  11. Hindus And Christians
  12. Christianity In India
  13. The Religion Of Love
  14. Jnana And Karma
  15. The Claims Of Vedanta On The Modern World
  16. The Laws Of Life And Death
  17. The Reality And The Shadow
  18. Way To Salvation
  19. The People Of India
  20. I Am That I Am
  21. Unity
  22. The Worship Of The Divine Mother
  23. The Essence Of Religion
Sayings and Utterances
  1. Sayings and Utterances
Epistles: Fourth Series
  1. 1. I have received the book of Pānini which you so kindly sent me
  2. 2. The will of Vishweshwara, the Lord of the universe, will prevail
  3. 3. I am under homoeopathic treatment
  4. 4. My difficulties here have almost come to a close
  5. 5. We also are spreading out here and there in small groups of two or three.
  6. 6. I have seen the Library and the pictures of Ravi Varma
  7. 7. It was quite a privilege to make his acquaintance
  8. 8. This is the first and the last of its kind and made only under very peculiar circumstances.
  9. 9. The world really is enriched by men, high-souled, noble-minded, and kind, like you
  10. 10. I start for Dharwar by the morning train tomorrow.
  11. 11. Experience is the greatest teacher in the world
  12. 12. Have you got lion’s cubs now in Junagad? Can you lend me one for my Rājā?
  13. 13. I love you and respect you like a father
  14. 14. The very best of men even are troubled and visited with tribulations in this world
  15. 15. Three things are necessary to make every man great, every nation great
  16. 16. My last address was the best I ever delivered
  17. 17. My idea of doing good is this: to evolve out a few giants, and not to strew pearls before swine
  18. 18. The full name being Narendra meaning the “Chief of men”
  19. 19. Long life brings queer experiences!
  20. 20. Educate and raise the masses, and thus alone a nation is possible.
  21. 21. Oh! If only I had one man of some true abilities and brains to back me in India!
  22. 22. Each must follow his own religion.
  23. 23. I am weeping like a child at His mercy—He never leaves His servant, sisters.
  24. 24. Darn it, forget everything
  25. 25. To your family I am ever, ever beholden.
  26. 26. I am very anxious about the Indian mail
  27. 27. If a Guru dies, his disciple is his heir
  28. 28. It also has been penetrated with my deep meditations on the Absolute
  29. 29. Hindus are head and shoulders above all other nations in morality and spirituality
  30. 30. Your kindness has left nothing more to be desired here
  31. 31. Hope your worry is over.
  32. 32. The word “Dharma” means religion
  33. 33. I am neither a sightseer nor an idle traveller; but you will see, if you live to see, and bless me all your life.
  34. 34. The secret of success of the Westerners is the power of organisation and combination.
  35. 35. I have a class every morning here on Vedānta and other topics.
  36. 36. Why do you not come to see Mrs. Ole Bull, Miss Farmer, and Mrs. Adams the physical culturist from Chicago?
  37. 37. I am going away next Tuesday to New York.
  38. 38. Women deserve and are fit for everything
  39. 39. It is an unavoidable circumstance, and not the will, that stands in the way
  40. 40. The West is the field for work if a man wants to benefit humanity
  41. 41. The man who is pure, and who dares, does all things
  42. 42. I am glad now the old man has seen the truth
  43. 43. I have succeeded in doing something in this country at last
  44. 44. Experiences are gathering a bit thick round you. I am sure they will lift many a veil more.
  45. 45. This is the bark in which all holy writings are written in India
  46. 46. This world will always be a mixture of good and evil, of happiness and misery
  47. 47. Denial of the will to live, knowledge, and same-sightedness is the trinity of liberation
  48. 48. Hari Om Tat Sat. He exists; nothing else does
  49. 49. Multitude counts for nothing
  50. 50. The lifelong struggle not to talk alone, but to live the life.
  51. 51. I have a cordial invitation from Miss Müller
  52. 52. I am very much more at home here than anywhere out of India
  53. 53. Be up and doing! “Fortune favours the brave and energetic.”
  54. 54. Breaking the ice is slow always.
  55. 55. This being in a sense my native country, I send you my welcome first
  56. 56. I have become an awful vegetarian now
  57. 57. In the ordinary sense religion is philosophy concretised through rituals and symbols.
  58. 58. The subject is “Indian Philosophy and Western Society”
  59. 59. We shall work on our own lines and let things grow
  60. 60. So far the journey has been very beautiful.
  61. 61. After ten days of a most tedious and rough voyage I safely arrived in New York
  62. 62. After 10 days of the most disastrous voyage I ever had I arrived in New York
  63. 63. There is no willing without knowing. How can we desire unless we know the object of desire?
  64. 64. My health is breaking down under constant work.
  65. 65. I would not have called you to any task which you are incompetent to do
  66. 66. We will work. “Wah guru ki fateh"
  67. 67. This year my work in New York is going on splendidly
  68. 68. My friends have engaged a stenographer (Goodwin)
  69. 69. I tell you plainly, I would not be played upon by any rogue.
  70. 70. One book, the Karma-Yoga has been already published
  71. 71. Ours is the Gospel of oneness of all beings
  72. 72. Every little bit of time I get I spend in the library
  73. 73. I sail on board the White Star Line Germanic tomorrow
  74. 74. Have you written for the Atharva-Veda Samhitā?
  75. 75. I love America more when I am out of it
  76. 76. I had a beautiful visit with Prof. Max Müller. He is a saint—a Vedantist through and through
  77. 77. By rousing interest here I really do more for India than in India
  78. 78. The scenery is very beautiful
  79. 79. Ought great attempts to be made
  80. 80. Do not for a moment give up your trust in the Lord, and you will see the light
  81. 81. What is there to be desired in this little mud-puddle of a world, with its ever-recurring misery, disease, and death?
  82. 82. The Seviers are good and kind
  83. 83. America is a good training ground to bring out all that is in a man
  84. 84. I have at last seen Prof. Deussen
  85. 85. He who wants perfection in the world is a madman, for it cannot be.
  86. 86. The coming of Goodwin was very opportune
  87. 87. Poor souls! Let them have a little satisfaction in barking
  88. 88. What am I? Asiatic, European, or American?
  89. 89. I do not work alone, but He is always with me
  90. 90. The episodes of the divine relationship between Rādhā and Krishna are quite unsuitable for young minds
  91. 91. Things come and go, dear friend. Only the Lord is unchangeable and He is Love.
  92. 92. We want more and more new members.
  93. 93. Keep a copy of the letter you sent me.
  94. 94. Sleep, eat, and exercise; exercise, eat, and sleep—that is what I am going to do some months yet.
  95. 95. It is through the heart, and that alone, that the world can be reached.
  96. 96. For the first time since the days of Buddha, Brahmin boys are found nursing by the bed-side of cholera-stricken pariahs.
  97. 97. The best time to come is to arrive in India by October or beginning of November
  98. 98. A work can be judged by its results only
  99. 99. Is not the soul the Light of the world?
  100. 100. I did not know before that I could be oratorical in Hindi.
  101. 101. The Punjab and Rajputana are indeed fields for work.
  102. 102. Today I am leaving by the two o’clock train with all my party for Kashmir.
  103. 103. The secret of the whole thing is to agitate and agitate without respite.
  104. 104. It is the one land fit for Yogis, to my mind.
  105. 105. I am in Kashmir. I have travelled far and wide, but I have never seen such a country.
  106. 106. From November to the middle of February India is cool
  107. 107. To do good, perfect unselfishness is absolutely necessary.
  108. 108. The people of our country have not yet offered me even as much as a pice for my travelling expenses
  109. 109. Do what you think best after considering the healthiness and other factors.
  110. 110. A leader must be impersonal.
  111. 111. I want my work to be quick like lightning, and firm as adamant.
  112. 112. Accounts, accurate to the last pie, must be kept of the amounts
  113. 113. Too much sentiment hurts work.
  114. 114. Without regular exercise the body does not keep fit
  115. 115. Now, come on, work with redoubled energy.
  116. 116. If you can get hold of some very old ghee, then send some of it
  117. 117. We must hold the big festival on our own plot of ground
  118. 118. Unless each goes about independently, he will not be able to do anything.
  119. 119. See that nobody is unduly bossed over.
  120. 120. No immediate result can be expected, but in the long run it will prove a more beneficial work
  121. 121. My gratitude for your very kind invitation to speak.
  122. 122. Work on with energy. India is a rotten corpse inside and outside. We shall revive it by the blessings of Shri Mahārāj.
  123. 123. Death I have conquered long ago when I gave up life. My only anxiety is the work
  124. 124. I have him always in mind, poor child; his devotion I can never repay.
  125. 125. I am so glad to learn that Miss Noble delivered an address at the R. K. Mission.
  126. 126. My health was excellent on my return from Sandukphu
  127. 127. On Sunday I leave Darjeeling, probably stopping for a day or two at Kurseong
  128. 128. Take care that funds do not run short in times of need and that there is no waste of money.
  129. 129. It was arranged between us that we would not object to anybody’s publishing my books.
  130. 130. For stomach troubles a cold climate is an unfailing remedy.
  131. 131. Set up such a machine as will go on automatically, no matter who dies or lives.
  132. 132. My head will be a full-blown white lotus by the time you see me next.
  133. 133. My present plan is to go to America via China and Japan in November or December
  134. 134. I have not witnessed the Durgā-Pujā for the last nine years
  135. 135. Shri Mother is going this morning to see the new Math.
  136. 136. Did you come across Max Müller’s new book, Ramakrishna: His Life and Sayings?
  137. 137. Turiyānanda is with me
  138. 138. Grind on, old lady; it is Karma and none can avoid.
  139. 139. If you want, even if the body be torn and bleeding, you may enjoy the greatest peace in your mind.
  140. 140. I want work, I want vigour—no matter who lives or dies.
  141. 141. It is an awful spell of the bad turn of fortune with me last six months.
  142. 142. I never saw a man who could satisfy everyone.
  143. 143. I am going to learn French.
  144. 144. I am much better now and growing so every day.
  145. 145. We have started a new India—a growth—waiting to see what comes.
  146. 146. My method is never to ask but wait for voluntary help.
  147. 147. How I curse the day that brought me celebrity!
  148. 148. Get experience while still there is a chance; I am not concerned whether you win or lose.
  149. 149. I never was so bad as now in finding my way in and out.
  150. 150. Die in obeying commands like a soldier, and go to Nirvāna, but no cowardice.
  151. 151. I am grinding on in Pasadena; hope some result will come out of my work here.
  152. 152. The only way to keep my peace is to teach others. Work is my only safety valve
  153. 153. I am happy just now and hope to remain so for all the rest of my life.
  154. 154. Mother wants me to undergo the same that She made the great Āchārya undergo in old days
  155. 155. I can always work better alone, and am physically and mentally best when entirely alone!
  156. 156. When my father died, it was a pang for months, and I had been so disobedient.
  157. 157. The last two years have been specially bad. I have been living in mental hell.
  158. 158. I can use my voice, however, to make 3,000 people hear me
  159. 159. They come in crowds when there is a free lecture and very few when there is something to pay.
  160. 160. You have done for me more than I ever deserve.
  161. 161. Alas, sickness, sorrow, and pain have been my companions for the last two years.
  162. 162. I am only a worker. My mission is to obey and work.
  163. 163. So glad to hear of Margot’s success. I have given her over to you, and am sure you will take care of her.
  164. 164. My nature is the retirement of a scholar. I never get it!
  165. 165. Thank God, nothing is eternal except Himself.
  166. 166. I have just received a bill of lading from Mrs. Banerji. She has sent some Dāl (pulses) and rice.
  167. 167. Work morning and evening, go to bed at 12 p.m. after a heavy supper!
  168. 168. I am cooking, eating whatever comes, working day and night, and I am all right and sleeping soundly!
  169. 169. The boys are working up; well, scolding has both sides, you see; it makes them up and doing.
  170. 170. Doing good is not always smooth!
  171. 171. Well, take what comes.
  172. 172. I am the servant of Ramakrishna. I am merely a machine. I know nothing else.
  173. 173. Money is not evil after all—in good hands.
  174. 174. I have finished my work. I am retired, Joe.
  175. 175. I am learning now how to be detached as well as attached
  176. 176. The Mother will take care of me. She is not going to strand me now after guarding me all my life.
  177. 177. After the incessant work I require a breath of God’s free air
  178. 178. Sudden indisposition and fever prevent my starting for Chicago yet.
  179. 179. I am going to throw off all worry, and glory unto Mother.
  180. 180. All blessings on you. Don’t despond in the least.
  181. 181. The Upanishads teach us all there is of religion.
  182. 182. I am only existence and knowledge.
  183. 183. I have been much censured by everyone for cutting off my long hair.
  184. 184. I am all alone, and washing; I like it.
  185. 185. I have to get the passage and sail. Mother knows the rest.
  186. 186. May the Swan (the Supreme Self) send us that.
  187. 187. They like you immensely, and I am sure you have found in them genuine, pure, and absolutely unselfish friends.
  188. 188. Devotion to the mother is the root of all welfare.
  189. 189. His work He knows, you and I are but servants and nothing else.
  190. 190. I like boldness and adventure and my race stands in need of that spirit very much
  191. 191. There is not a single person on whom I can depend
  192. 192. I have been having intense meditation and repetition of the Lord’s name.
  193. 193. Through Mother’s will all work will go on; don’t be afraid.
  194. 194. I have been very happy and content here.
  195. 195. We shall in the end find what we are looking for, isn’t it?
  196. 196. I am holding my soul in patience.
  197. 197. I don’t know the future of the work in the Himalayas.